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Saturday, December 17, 2005

Illegal and unconstitutional

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He's finished.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Espionage_and_Intelligence/

The Democratic leadership needs to call for:

A. The NSA to release the names of every American that they spied on.

B. The immediate resignation of the President.

23 Comments:

  • At 2:33 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    AMEN, Robert! (And personally, I rather *liked* that "bad joke". Though I wasn't at all sure what you might be thinking, it nevertheless seemed like a REMARKABLY good idea to me!) ;-)

     
  • At 3:00 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Some backround on the overwhelmingly clear basis for impeachment and criminal prosecution of our "Liar-in-Chief" and his treasonous collaborators: '78 Law Sought to Close Spy Loophole ==== ... "If we are a nation of laws, then the president must be bound by the rule of law," said Lisa Graves, senior counsel at the ACLU in Washington. "This is clearly in violation of FISA and a violation of the Constitution. The president, no matter who he is, does not have the power to decide which laws he will follow." ... ==== [Robert: Do you think now would be a good time to post that bumper sticker graphic I sent you previously? The resemblance between these NeoConNazis and their Fascist predecessors grows more readily apparent each day!]

     
  • At 3:55 PM, Blogger Robert said…

    I would love to and I've spent the lat hour trying to do just that but Blogger will only allow me to post jpegs. Everytime I try to upload it I receive an error message. :(

    You're right though, it is highly appropriate. I will keep trying to format it in a way that will work.

    As far as the rifle. I had a chance to fire one of the .50's years ago. Weapons, when not being used to kill innocent people or even guilty ones for that matter, can be works of art in their form and function. The Barrett certainly qualifies, however this blog is not the place for it and might raise all of the wrong sorts of questions.

     
  • At 4:26 PM, Blogger Robert said…

    About Duuuhhhbya.

    In his little mad fit this morning the dumb son-of-a-bitch has the nerve to try and blame the media for ratting him out on this issue.

    Also, all day long Neo-con affiliated lawyers are saturating the airwaves with the message"Who gives the damn if it violates the Fourth Amendment, it makes us safer. Besides he's the president and above the law." No kidding, that's what the talking points from the Right amount to. I can't wait for the Sunday bullshit fest to hear what else these morons come up with.

    Now even the majority of the brain dead Merkan public is learning what we've all known this entire time.

    To the President and his henchman the Constitution is just a "goddamned piece of paper" and the rest of us are just in the way of their power grabs, war mongering, and corporate rape and plunder of everything in sight.

    Your're caught this time you chimp faced stump fucker. You and the rest of your little crew. Mark my words, within six months the ranking Republicans from the House and the Senate are gonna be taking a little walk to the Oval Office to say enough is enough.

     
  • At 5:42 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Oh, *I* see! It's those LEAKS about the Jackass-in-Chief's criminal acts that are REALLY "illegal"; Bush's own felonious, megalomaniacal conduct is perfectly "justifiable". WHY? Because the Fuehrer says so, of course! Violating the provisions of the US Constitution *and* laws specifically enacted to abolish any such vile presidential abuses of power is supposedly "okay" -- as long as you fancifully dress it up as an issue of "national security". (Uh-huh.) But informing the citizenry, in accordance with the Bill of Rights?? Why, that's positively "criminal"!: Bush Acknowleges Allowing Eavesdropping ==== President Bush acknowleged on Saturday that he authorized the National Security Agency "to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations" and said leaks to the media about the program were illegal. ... ==== [I can't WAIT to see the list of those "dangerous terrorist associates" (= politically opposed Americans) that "King" George has illicitly bugged. Why, I'll wager that folks like Howard Zinn and Michael Moore are damn near the top of the list, just as that supposedly "dangerous Communist" Martin Luther King was *before* the legal "loopholes" were utterly eradicated by Act of Congress.(Right on, Robert: This douche bag dictator and his deluded "fans" are clearly rabid!)]

     
  • At 6:13 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Robert: I see what you're getting at with the graphic, too. Like the Hagal banner, it doesn't seem to "want" to convert to a JPG *without* losing its crispness. (Silly Blogger! I can understand their desire to keep graphics small, but *simple* GIFs are typically quite tiny -- often *smaller* than JPG conversions of the same image. Arggh!)

     
  • At 2:19 AM, Anonymous b said…

    Welcome back i know this is wrong thread i'm in a hurry but worry naught about converting a bmp to a jpg.

    I use a really cool free program (no spyware) whch will do it in a jiffy.

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  • At 2:20 AM, Anonymous b said…

    Ooops a url would be useful

    http://www.irfanview.com

     
  • At 6:55 AM, Anonymous dave derry said…

    So far Bush has had a pretty easy ride. He has been able to do whatever he wants, and as long as he wraps it in the mantle of 'national security', or in the interesets of 'protecting the 'Merican people on the WOT', he has been able to garner support among the 'masses'. But maybe he has gone too far, and things may be catching up with him. Let's certainly hope so! There is yet hope that the 'masses' will awaken and open their eyes to what has been going on for the last 4+ years.
    Bush's Fumbles Spur New Talk of Oversight on Hill
    Lawmakers have been caught by surprise by several recent reports, including the existence of secret U.S. prisons abroad, the CIA's detention overseas of innocent foreign nationals, and, last week, the discovery that the military has been engaged in domestic spying. After five years in which the GOP-controlled House and Senate undertook few investigations into the administration's activities, the legislative branch has begun to complain about being in the dark.
    Democrats on the committee said the panel issued 1,052 subpoenas to probe alleged misconduct by the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party between 1997 and 2002, at a cost of more than $35 million. By contrast, the committee under Davis has issued three subpoenas to the Bush administration, two to the Energy Department over nuclear waste disposal at Yucca Mountain, and one last week to the Defense Department over Katrina documents.
    Specifically, Democrats list 14 areas where the GOP majority has "failed to investigate" the administration, including the role of senior officials in the abuse of detainees; leaking the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame; the role of Vice President Cheney's office in awarding contracts to Cheney's former employer, Halliburton; the White House's withholding from Congress the cost of a Medicare prescription drug plan; the administration's relationship with Iraqi politician Ahmed Chalabi; and the influence of corporate interests on energy policy, environmental regulation and tobacco policy.

    Meanwhile, the House ethics committee has not opened a new case or launched an investigation in the past 12 months, despite outside investigations involving, among others, Cunningham and former lobbyist Jack Abramoff.


    In most cases, Republicans have said that Democrats are motivated by partisanship rather than fact-finding.

    Who cannot argue that that last statement applies to everything that the Republican administration and legislature has done. It is *very* clear to me that they are motivated by partisanship; and, of course. greed.

     
  • At 7:04 AM, Anonymous dave derry said…

    Off topic, but here is a very real concern about the actions of a 'Christian, moral, and compassionate' government.

    Move to Outlaw Aid for Immigrants Called Contrary to Bible

    When Tim Holt spotted Maria Rabanales of El Salvador lying still in the Arizona desert this summer, he believed he had a God-given duty to save her.

    Holt was praised by Humane Borders, sponsored by First Christian Church of Tucson, where he is a volunteer. But his actions that June day might soon be considered a crime, punishable by up to five years in prison or property forfeiture, if a Republican-sponsored bill that passed the House along partisan lines on Friday becomes law.

    The bill [...] would make it a crime to assist undocumented immigrants who enter or attempt to enter the United States illegally. It has sent a chill through church organizations that help migrants in the belief that they are carrying out the will of God.

    Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations for NumbersUSA, an opponent of mass immigration, said churches are interpreting the bill too literally. She said that other than stiffer penalties, the wording is not much different from current law.

    "People aren't going to be prosecuted for providing life-giving care," Jenks said.



    Yeah, right. 'interpreting the bill too literally'. The law would *never* be applied in that manner. Do any of you believe that? With the record this administration as accumulated of interpreting the law in such a way as to declare that everything they do is 'within the law'.

     
  • At 11:56 AM, Blogger Mohamed said…

    "Senator Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the Judiciary Committee, has said he would conduct hearings on why Mr. Bush took the action" http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/18/politics/18bush.html don't let the republicans do it guys! kick their butts, it's time to expose the dire price America and eventually the whole planet, words are a Container, they have no intrinsic meaning the meaning of them is what you implant in people heads...it's seems very much a success that Bushits et al. are filling "Democracy" word Container with Fachism

    trust me! i come from a place where we learned exactly the difference between "spying on your own people" and "Legalizing spying on your own people", the first is dirty operations that you can fight against and HUNT! the SECOND means that your a criminal if you fight against it and HUNT it!! the difference is hell of a difference.

    The legalization of limiting citizen freedoms is THE FIRST SEED for a Fachist regiem!! THE SECOND SEED is when they allowed torture and secret prisons, did anything in the law execlude Americans?........... now combine both and you have the famous machine that makes American citizens suddenly disappear (X is a traitor, take him out!)...Welcome to the desert of the new world Faschism, it all sounds strangely familiar, but it might not sound as familiar to The Americans people

    maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! will all this nightmares end soon?

     
  • At 12:05 PM, Blogger Mohamed said…

    pardon me guys, i'm just sharing the local experience of my nation with you :))

    just a quick remark, how hard is it to get a permit to spy on a citizen you thing is a suspect?? why do you need to bypass the court/justice system? NOW ask, WHOM ARE THEY REALLY SPYING ON AND FOR WHAT?? the smell of Faschism is so striking!!

     
  • At 1:35 PM, Anonymous UT said…

    Hi Mohamed, i'm glad you made it here. This place is our little refuge far from the lies that we are being fed everyday by the mainstream medias and I think you'll like it here :)

     
  • At 1:50 PM, Blogger Mohamed said…

    Hey ut, it was your link that got me up here (notice me not saying "down" here on purpose)

    sunny and shinny territory, thanks dude :))

     
  • At 3:07 PM, Blogger Robert said…

    Welcome to the monkey house Mohamed. Watch out for the monkey named UT. He may try to throw shit at you :)

     
  • At 4:29 PM, Anonymous UT said…

    Welcome to the monkey house Mohamed. Watch out for the monkey named UT. He may try to throw shit at you :)

    We won't kiss your ass anyway ;) Mohamed is my khouya. We met on AlJazeera's blog and he has interesting things to tell us. He is from Egypt, mother of the high standard arabic language :)

     
  • At 5:17 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    And just LOOK how well this free-wheeling presidential espionage, apparently based on some concept of "terrorism" PROFILING, is working! Why, in this particular case, they've even managed to nab a suspect RED-HANDED, in the very ACT of good scholarship: Agents' Visit Chills UMass Dartmouth Senior ==== A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on Communism called "The Little Red Book." ==== Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program. ==== The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said. ==== The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further. ... ==== [Salaam, Mohamed, and welcome! Yes, the Bush Reich *is* a blatantly Totalitarian, rogue regime. It has strived to achieve that illicit level of autonomy throughout (and even *before*) its tenure. The big shift now is that its rabid advocates are preposterously proclaiming the president's "Constitutional right" to completely disregard both the Constitution and the law in general! Our "democracy" is standing at a precipice, teetering dangerously.]

     
  • At 5:31 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Of course, what wannabe dictatorship *wouldn't* benefit tremendously from having its loyal party stooges controlling the Congress, "looking the other way" in times of trouble?: Bush's Fumbles Spur New Talk of Oversight on Hill ==== Democrats have long complained about a dearth of congressional investigations into Bush administration activities, but their criticism has been gaining validation from others after the botched response to Hurricane Katrina, problems in Iraq and ethical lapses. ==== Lawrence B. Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, said this fall that "the people's representatives over on the Hill in that other branch of government have truly abandoned their oversight responsibilities [on national security] and have let things atrophy to the point that if we don't do something about it, it's going to get even more dangerous than it already is." ==== In an interview last week, Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, said "it's a fair comment" that the GOP-controlled Congress has done insufficient oversight and "ought to be" doing more. ... ==== Democrats on the committee said the panel issued 1,052 subpoenas to probe alleged misconduct by the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party between 1997 and 2002, at a cost of more than $35 million. By contrast, the committee under Davis has issued three subpoenas to the Bush administration, two to the Energy Department over nuclear waste disposal at Yucca Mountain, and one last week to the Defense Department over Katrina documents. ...

     
  • At 5:32 PM, Anonymous dave derry said…

    greetings mohamed,

    You ask who they are spying on. That is clear from jmf's posting: "... people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations"

    Of course, that implies that in order to 'know' if someone has links to blah blah blah, it is necessary to spy on anyone who *might* have such connections. And we all know that that includes *all* of those unpatriotic leftists. Anti-war protesters, environmentalists, anyone who disagrees with Bush, anyone who ever says 'Happy Holidays', anyone interested in reading a book on a 'watch' list, anyone with a name similar to one on a 'watch list', .... Oh hell, I guess it includes everyone who doesn't have 'I love GW Bush' tatooed on their ass.

     
  • At 6:05 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Ooops! Sorry for the redundancy. I see Dave Derry already referenced the above article. And Dave, I too sincerely hope they nail the bastards on this and *various* past transgressions, many of which we probably don't even *suspect* yet.. If not, I fear this "government" will rapidly degenerate into a complete, "anything goes" NeoConNazi coup (if it hasn't already). At that point, the dissolution of our lame, partisan "Reichstag" is not at all inconceivable, and possibly not even undesirable, considering all it has failed to do in support of the country and its citizens due to its supine deference to the Reich. Right now, I truly believe we have but a pretense of democracy -- all the trappings are there, but the *functionality* is severely impaired to utterly absent. Even our elections, as we know, are dubious in the extreme! And now we see our wetbrain "Fuehrer" getting uppity at the mere prospect of actually having to *abide* by the law. Like Senator Feingold sais, it *is* a sad day ... for America.

     
  • At 8:28 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    The New York Times strikes back, admirably displaying its claws: This Call May Be Monitored ... [NY Times - Editorial] ==== ... Let's be clear about this: illegal government spying on Americans is a violation of individual liberties, whether conditions are troubled or not. Nobody with a real regard for the rule of law and the Constitution would have difficulty seeing that. The law governing the National Security Agency was written after the Vietnam War because the government had made lists of people it considered national security threats and spied on them. All the same empty points about effective intelligence gathering were offered then, just as they are now, and the Congress, the courts and the American people rejected them. ... ==== President Bush defended the program yesterday, saying it was saving lives, hotly insisting that he was working within the Constitution and the law, and denouncing The Times for disclosing the program's existence. We don't know if he was right on the first count; this White House has cried wolf so many times on the urgency of national security threats that it has lost all credibility. But we have learned the hard way that Mr. Bush's team cannot be trusted to find the boundaries of the law, much less respect them. ==== Mr. Bush said he would not retract his secret directive or halt the illegal spying, so Congress should find a way to force him to do it. Perhaps the Congressional leaders who were told about the program could get the ball rolling.

     
  • At 9:04 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    And apparently, the "gloves are coming off" all around. Finally, we see some unbridled *resistance* to perhaps the most senselessly "enabled" government scum ever: Sen. Reid Calls US Congress 'Most Corrupt in History' ==== U.S. Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid called the Republican-led Congress "the most corrupt in history" on Sunday, and distanced himself from lobbyist Jack Abramoff, at the center of an escalating probe. ==== The Justice Department is investigating whether Jack Abramoff directed illegal payoffs to lawmakers, including Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas, who was forced to step down as House Republican leader in September after indicted in his home state of Texas on unrelated charges. ==== "Don't lump me in with Jack Abramoff. This is a Republican scandal," Reid told Fox News Sunday, saying he never received any money from Abramoff. ... [Viva la Revolucion! Down with Bush and his treasonous NeoConNazi henchmen!!]

     
  • At 10:50 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    And from the editors of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: Big Brother Bush : The president took a step toward a police state [Editorial] ... The White House needs to tell the Pentagon promptly to destroy the records of protesters as required, within three months. It also needs promptly to tell the NSA to return to following the rules, to get the approval of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court before monitoring Americans' communications. The idea that all of this is being done to us in the name of national security doesn't wash; that is the language of a police state. Those are the unacceptable actions of a police state.

     

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