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Thursday, December 22, 2005

Your papers please

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From Yahoo news:

A bill on Gov. Bob Taft's desk right now is drawing a lot of criticism, NewsChannel5 reported.

One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.

The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID.

"It brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society," said Carrie Davis of the ACLU, which opposes the Ohio Patriot Act.

There are many others who oppose the bill as well.

"The variety of people who opposed to this is not just a group of the usual suspects. We have people far right to the left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea," said Al McGinty, NewsChannel5?s terrorism expert.

McGinty said he isn't sure the law would do what it's intended to do.

"I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea," he said. "It is a good law in the wrong direction."

Gov. Bob Taft will make the ultimate decision on whether to sign the bill.

WEWS was told that Taft is expected to sign the bill into law, but legal experts expect that it will be challenged in courts.


Link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5666394

I looked around some more on what is coming to be known as the Ohio Patriot Act, turns out it's worse than I thought. If it passes, to be able to get a drivers license in Ohio you will have to answer questions about what kind of groups you donate money to!

Link:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050613/NEWS01/506130348

5 Comments:

  • At 6:17 PM, Anonymous moe said…

    we have had all sorts of terrorist attacks at home! all emerged starting in early 1990s...funny enough we had an emergency law in effect since 1981 combined with a rampant disrespect of all laws by the government, yet attacks were also rampant! and kept on happening! so saying this is essential for a safer society is bullshit!

    This nonsense is a typical example of an Irrelevant Conclusion fallacy!!

    what are these people after?

     
  • At 8:44 PM, Blogger politiques USA said…

    You should change the title "papers please" to "Papier bitte!" it will make it more Geheimliche Staatliche Polizei aka da Gestapo. Gestapo means in german secret state police.

     
  • At 11:23 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    "Geheimliche" ==== Pol.U: Isn't that actually the emergency maneuver the SS uses whenever Bush eats pretzels? ;-) ==== And like the sign said, "GIVE THE PRETZEL ANOTHER CHANCE!"

     
  • At 11:30 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    Robert: I assume Ohio's bent politicos are just positioning themselves well for Election Coup 2006 and beyond. Gotta wrap up all those untidy "loose ends" from democracy if you expect to rig and rule with an iron fist!

     
  • At 11:50 PM, Anonymous JMF said…

    It seems the times, they ARE a'changin': Double Rebuke for Bush as Judges Attack Terror Moves [The Guardian] ==== President George Bush faced a rare challenge from the judiciary yesterday when two courts questioned the legality of his expansion of presidential powers in the war on terror. ==== In a startling rebuke, a federal appeals court refused to allow the transfer of a terror suspect, Jose Padilla, from military to civilian custody and strongly suggested that the Bush administration was trying to manipulate the judicial system. ==== Meanwhile, the Washington Post reported that judges of the secret court established under the foreign intelligence surveillance act (Fisa) had demanded a briefing from Bush administration officials on why they believed it was legal to bypass their authority and eavesdrop on the telephone conversations and email of American citizens without a warrant. ... ==== ["Come Senators, Congressmen, please heed the call // Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall // For he that gets hurt will be he who has stalled ..."]

     

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